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Dave Flower  
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 Flere valgmuligheder 28 Jul., 09:37
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Fra: Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@BTINTERNET.COM>
Dato: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
Lokalt: On. 28 Jul. 2010 09:37
Emne: EBU hides its light under a bushel
How many EBU players have discovered how much information about their
own performance is available on the EBU website.
Click on 'member login', enter your player number and password
(supplied in a letter together with the infamous 'keytags', and
finally on 'masterpoints'. On the right hand site is a list of dates.
If you click on these, full results for that event are displayed.
As far as I know, the EBU has not advertised this feature - which I
discovered by chance - but results are sometimes for be found there
before club websites.

Dave Flower


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Steve Foster  
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 Flere valgmuligheder 28 Jul., 11:18
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Fra: "Steve Foster" <stevefos...@invalid.invalid>
Dato: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:18:51 +0000 (UTC)
Lokalt: On. 28 Jul. 2010 11:18
Emne: Re: EBU hides its light under a bushel

Dave Flower wrote:
> How many EBU players have discovered how much information about their
> own performance is available on the EBU website.
> Click on 'member login', enter your player number and password
> (supplied in a letter together with the infamous 'keytags', and
> finally on 'masterpoints'. On the right hand site is a list of dates.
> If you click on these, full results for that event are displayed.
> As far as I know, the EBU has not advertised this feature - which I
> discovered by chance - but results are sometimes for be found there
> before club websites.

Well, "results" isn't really the word. It lists the basic P2P session
data, which usually includes your percentage or other score (IMPs, VPs,
etc.), depending upon event type. Note that there's no ordering - the
list of names is presented in whatever order the program used to create
the EBU P2P file chose to write the data.

Also you don't need to click on the Master Points tab to see the
session list - it's always visible once you've logged in. And the
Master Points tab is itself a recent addition (about 2 weeks ago),
replacing the previous "Check Master Points online" portion of the EBU
website (which has been removed).

Another minor niggle is that the session list isn't usefully ordered
either - it's simply presented by order of submission (rather than
event date).

The EBU always promised that this would be a benefit of P2P, and they
did explain that this stuff was available in the letter that
accompanied your Tesco^H^H^HEBU Keytags.

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 Flere valgmuligheder 28 Jul., 11:32
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Fra: Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@BTINTERNET.COM>
Dato: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
Lokalt: On. 28 Jul. 2010 11:32
Emne: Re: EBU hides its light under a bushel
On Jul 28, 2:18 pm, "Steve Foster" <stevefos...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

You are quite right about the session list being visible once one is
logged in, but the EBU letter was vague about the facilities available
after logging in - certainly no mention of results being available

Dave Flower


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 Flere valgmuligheder 29 Jul., 12:38
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Fra: "Steve Foster" <stevefos...@invalid.invalid>
Dato: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:38:25 +0000 (UTC)
Lokalt: To. 29 Jul. 2010 12:38
Emne: Re: EBU hides its light under a bushel

Dave Flower wrote:
> You are quite right about the session list being visible once one is
> logged in, but the EBU letter was vague about the facilities available
> after logging in - certainly no mention of results being available

It's not intended as a "results service", that's why (and it's a bit
pants if that's how you regard it). The EBU letter describes the data
you see as "session history", which it is - that you get to see other
players scores is a bonus.

I'd like to see the list of sessions ordered by date (descending
preferably, so that most recent are at the top), and have a second
column that shows any master points accredited to you for the session.
This would save us all from having to "open" the sessions to check for
master points (which I'd hazard would be the #1 reason for doing so).

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 Flere valgmuligheder 30 Jul., 06:44
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Fra: Ian Payn <ian.p...@charterchambers.com>
Dato: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:44:45 -0700 (PDT)
Lokalt: Fr. 30 Jul. 2010 06:44
Emne: Re: EBU hides its light under a bushel
On Jul 28, 2:18 pm, "Steve Foster" <stevefos...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

> The EBU always promised that this would be a benefit of P2P, and they
> did explain that this stuff was available in the letter that
> accompanied your Tesco^H^H^HEBU Keytags.

> --
> Steve Foster

++++Alas, I didn't read it, and threw the Tesco Club Cards in the bin
along with it. My loss. I'll never know how many masterpoints I have,
where I came in anything, or be able to wave my key ring at arresting
officers claiming EBU Immunity. Since I already have on my key ring my
house keys, my house alarm, my business keys and alarm fob, and the
Young Chelsea keys, not to mention one of my regular partner's house
key (I haven't got around to taking that off and putting it in a
drawer to be forgotten yet) I found it easy to disobey the EBU order
to put their fob on my key ring IMMEDIATELY.

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 Flere valgmuligheder 30 Jul., 10:55
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Dato: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:55:17 +0000 (UTC)
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Emne: Re: EBU hides its light under a bushel

Who knew the YC was such a hotbed of rebellion? <g>

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David Stevenson  
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 Flere valgmuligheder 29 Aug., 18:32
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Dato: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:32:57 +0100
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Emne: Re: EBU hides its light under a bushel
Steve Foster wrote

   I would like to see them complete.  Last time I checked it only seemed
to have club data.

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